Regretting chump yet?

[Biker]

Yeah, gonna suck when we leave NATO and y’all gotta defend yourselves. The horror

[AnalHamster]

Yeah who needed all that peace and prosperity since ww2, America sure has done poorly since then. NATO has actually just been invoked once, when America was attacked. The main point was to not have wars in the first place.

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Their navy is basically destroyed, their air force is destroyed, their army is reduced to firing random missiles at neighboring countries turning them into adversaries, their leadership is dead on multiple levels and the newest "Supreme Leader" is critically wounded and will be dead soon as well as the next guy they choose. Gas prices are still relatively stable here and still under their peak price under Biden. 12 service members are dead but not all of them due to combat. The strait will not be "closed" for long. Iranians are giving tips to the American military on the whereabouts of top regime members and their security.
Iran has no more capabilities to produce missiles or drones and their stockpile is thin. This is evidenced by their decreasing launch rate.
All things considered, I'd say it's going pretty well.

[CHEEZY17]

Their navy is basically destroyed, accurate their air force is destroyed accurate, their army is reduced to firing random missiles at neighboring countries turning them into adversaries accurate, just hit a hotel yesterday, their leadership is dead on multiple levels and the newest "Supreme Leader" is critically wounded and will be dead soon as well as the next guy they choose accurate, new guy is reportedly already dead*. Gas prices are still relatively stable here and still under their peak price under Biden accurate. 12 service members are dead but not all of them due to combat accurate. The strait will not be "closed" for long This is the only one you might have, retard, and no one knows at this point. Iranians are giving tips to the American military on the whereabouts of top regime members and their security accurate, supposedly Iranian tips helped lead to latest leadership death.
Iran has no more capabilities to produce missiles or drones and their stockpile is thin. This is evidenced by their decreasing launch rate see chart above.
All things considered, I'd say it's going pretty well.

What's your issue Dodgin' Dot?

*Ali Larijani, Iran's top security official, killed in airstrike, Israel says. Here's why his death is significant.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ali-larija ... es-israel/

Iran’s Basij commander Gholamreza Soleimani killed, IRGC confirms
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/1 ... y-official

[QillerDaemon]

Biker emailed to say how much he wuvs me and missed me so I thought I'd check in. Still a bit of a righty echo chamber but now chumps chickens are coming home to roost. Citizens shot dead by his goons on US streets, NATO teetering, now your very own forever war.

Well, it's good to have you back whatever the cause!

See, Biker is occasionally good for something.

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What's your issue Dodgin' Dot?

I don't have an issue. It's an observation, Bob.

[CHEEZY17]

What's your issue Dodgin' Dot?

I don't have an issue. It's an observation, Bob.

Baghdad Bob was (in)famous for denying reality.
As I noted above, everything i posted is accurate and true.

[AnalHamster]

What's your issue Dodgin' Dot?

I don't have an issue. It's an observation, Bob.

Baghdad Bob was (in)famous for denying reality.
As I noted above, everything i posted is accurate and true.

Other than the bit about the straits shutting barely affecting the US, the bit about it'll be reopen real quick, and the ignoring of the simple fact that Iran's 'inferior tech' has damaged half the US bases in the region and exposed to your allies there that the US can't actually fill your security guarantees.
Chump pussies or he puts boots on the ground. Only options at this point and ultimately a loss either way.

[Animal]

my heart just breaks for that poor AH after the news that one of Iran's sophisticated and highly accurate missles landed in a house in the West Bank and accidentally killed 4 Palestenians and injured 6 others. Other than that, Iran's ability to protect the Palestenians is still pretty good.

[Burn1dwn]

my heart just breaks for that poor AH after the news that one of Iran's sophisticated and highly accurate missles landed in a house in the West Bank and accidentally killed 4 Palestenians and injured 6 others. Other than that, Iran's ability to protect the Palestenians is still pretty good.

That's still 3/4 less Palestinians killed in the WB by IDF and settlers since the war started.

I don't think anyone denies that the US and Israel have superior military equipment to the Iranians.

Just like in Libya and Syria, chaos only benefits one nation in the region.

It starts with an I and isn't Iran. See if you can figure it out.

[CHEEZY17]

What's your issue Dodgin' Dot?

I don't have an issue. It's an observation, Bob.

Baghdad Bob was (in)famous for denying reality.
As I noted above, everything i posted is accurate and true.

Other than the bit about the straits shutting barely affecting the US, the bit about it'll be reopen real quick, and the ignoring of the simple fact that Iran's 'inferior tech' has damaged half the US bases in the region and exposed to your allies there that the US can't actually fill your security guarantees.
Chump pussies or he puts boots on the ground. Only options at this point and ultimately a loss either way.

Yes, some made it through. No defense is perfect. Google says between 90-96% of Iran's launches were intercepted. Why don't you mention how many of their initial barrage were stopped?
Some bases were damaged vs Navy and Air Force destroyed, virtual isolation and multiple levels of leadership dead. Sounds like a win to me.
Attacking neighboring countries with old technology is what winning countries do. That gets the neighbors on their side.

They are rationing what little munitions they have left.

[CHEEZY17]

my heart just breaks for that poor AH after the news that one of Iran's sophisticated and highly accurate missles landed in a house in the West Bank and accidentally killed 4 Palestenians and injured 6 others. Other than that, Iran's ability to protect the Palestenians is still pretty good.

That's still 3/4 less Palestinians killed in the WB by IDF and settlers since the war started.

I don't think anyone denies that the US and Israel have superior military equipment to the Iranians.

Just like in Libya and Syria, chaos only benefits one nation in the region.

It starts with an I and isn't Iran. See if you can figure it out.

Burn, if this endeavor ends with a pro western government that seeks to bring the Iranian people back to pre-Islamic revolution conditions and all the freedoms and benefits that entails, would you consider it a positive? I'm honestly asking what it would take for you to consider this a positive. Is that even possible?

[AnalHamster]

What's your issue Dodgin' Dot?

I don't have an issue. It's an observation, Bob.

Baghdad Bob was (in)famous for denying reality.
As I noted above, everything i posted is accurate and true.

Other than the bit about the straits shutting barely affecting the US, the bit about it'll be reopen real quick, and the ignoring of the simple fact that Iran's 'inferior tech' has damaged half the US bases in the region and exposed to your allies there that the US can't actually fill your security guarantees.
Chump pussies or he puts boots on the ground. Only options at this point and ultimately a loss either way.

Yes, some made it through. No defense is perfect. Google says between 90-96% of Iran's launches were intercepted. Why don't you mention how many of their initial barrage were stopped?
Some bases were damaged vs Navy and Air Force destroyed, virtual isolation and multiple levels of leadership dead. Sounds like a win to me.
Attacking neighboring countries with old technology is what winning countries do. That gets the neighbors on their side.

They are rationing what little munitions they have left.

Are you capable of acknowledging they've hit literally half the US bases in the region costing you a billion or so on top of the billions spent on interceptors or is the cognitive dissonance too strong? Doing this with dirt cheap 'old tech' is basically their tactic of choice and why they are winning. The neighbours hosting those US bases weren't on their side to begin with and now know the US can't protect them after all.

[CHEEZY17]

What's your issue Dodgin' Dot?

I don't have an issue. It's an observation, Bob.

Baghdad Bob was (in)famous for denying reality.
As I noted above, everything i posted is accurate and true.

Other than the bit about the straits shutting barely affecting the US, the bit about it'll be reopen real quick, and the ignoring of the simple fact that Iran's 'inferior tech' has damaged half the US bases in the region and exposed to your allies there that the US can't actually fill your security guarantees.
Chump pussies or he puts boots on the ground. Only options at this point and ultimately a loss either way.

Yes, some made it through. No defense is perfect. Google says between 90-96% of Iran's launches were intercepted. Why don't you mention how many of their initial barrage were stopped?
Some bases were damaged vs Navy and Air Force destroyed, virtual isolation and multiple levels of leadership dead. Sounds like a win to me.
Attacking neighboring countries with old technology is what winning countries do. That gets the neighbors on their side.

They are rationing what little munitions they have left.

Are you capable of acknowledging they've hit literally half the US bases in the region costing you a billion or so on top of the billions spent on interceptors or is the cognitive dissonance too strong? Doing this with dirt cheap 'old tech' is basically their tactic of choice and why they are winning. The neighbours hosting those US bases weren't on their side to begin with and now know the US can't protect them after all.

Are you capable of acknowledging that losing your entire air force and navy while simultaneously losing multiple levels of leadership and alienating neighbors is not "winning"?
Again you ignore the launch chart showing that their "tactic of choice" is running thin and is proven by the rationing of their munitions.
Yes, bases were hit and are still functional. I already acknowledged that. Now compare that to the loses of the Iranian regime.
Yep, they are totally winning!

[AnalHamster]

They're maintaining the current level of fire for the long haul until Americas inevitably gives up or commits ground troops. Strait remains closed until then.

[Animal]

They're maintaining the current level of fire for the long haul until Americas inevitably gives up or commits ground troops. Strait remains closed until then.

Why do you think America would ever commit ground troops? At some point all of the targets we had in mind are going to have been destroyed and then we stop. That day is probably pretty near. I'm sure that you and your iranian friends will declare that a victory. We always see that dance when these things end. If there are any ground troops, it would only be to retrieve the uranium. This will not turn into a 10 or 20 year game of hide and seek like Afghanistan or Iraq turned into.

I would expect there will be a new canal in the plans. Cut through Oman or UAE to bypass Iran's choke point in the Strait. It has been talked about for years, because aside from the sudden surge in experts on the Strait in the past 2 weeks, there have been a lot of people that have known this would be Iran's desperation plan and now that it has actually unfolded it will be fixed.

I still remember the white and yellow ribbons for the hostages. And even though its a different guy, I smiled when they announced Khamenei died.

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Baghdad Bob was (in)famous for denying reality.

Exactly. You're just upset your permanent denial of reality has now reached the war scale again and thus the comparison hits. All because dear leader commands you to. Good job, Bob.

[Biker]

They're maintaining the current level of fire for the long haul until Americas inevitably gives up or commits ground troops. Strait remains closed until then.

Why do you think America would ever commit ground troops?

For the same reason we got into this mess; Israel and Bibi will demand it

[CHEEZY17]

They're maintaining the current level of fire for the long haul until Americas inevitably gives up or commits ground troops. Strait remains closed until then.

That's just a nice way of saying they blew their wad on the first couple of days and are now rationing their munitions because they know they are running low. The stats don't lie.

[AnalHamster]

They're maintaining the current level of fire for the long haul until Americas inevitably gives up or commits ground troops. Strait remains closed until then.

Why do you think America would ever commit ground troops? At some point all of the targets we had in mind are going to have been destroyed and then we stop. That day is probably pretty near. I'm sure that you and your iranian friends will declare that a victory. We always see that dance when these things end. If there are any ground troops, it would only be to retrieve the uranium. This will not turn into a 10 or 20 year game of hide and seek like Afghanistan or Iraq turned into.

I would expect there will be a new canal in the plans. Cut through Oman or UAE to bypass Iran's choke point in the Strait. It has been talked about for years, because aside from the sudden surge in experts on the Strait in the past 2 weeks, there have been a lot of people that have known this would be Iran's desperation plan and now that it has actually unfolded it will be fixed.

I still remember the white and yellow ribbons for the hostages. And even though its a different guy, I smiled when they announced Khamenei died.

You can't get the uranium or reopen the strait without ground troops. Declaring nothing more to bomb and running away with the straits closed and then the same time away from building a bomb is a clear loss.

Maybe someone wants to spend hundreds of billions on a new canal but it would still be in range of Iranian drones and missiles.

[Animal]

They're maintaining the current level of fire for the long haul until Americas inevitably gives up or commits ground troops. Strait remains closed until then.

Why do you think America would ever commit ground troops? At some point all of the targets we had in mind are going to have been destroyed and then we stop. That day is probably pretty near. I'm sure that you and your iranian friends will declare that a victory. We always see that dance when these things end. If there are any ground troops, it would only be to retrieve the uranium. This will not turn into a 10 or 20 year game of hide and seek like Afghanistan or Iraq turned into.

I would expect there will be a new canal in the plans. Cut through Oman or UAE to bypass Iran's choke point in the Strait. It has been talked about for years, because aside from the sudden surge in experts on the Strait in the past 2 weeks, there have been a lot of people that have known this would be Iran's desperation plan and now that it has actually unfolded it will be fixed.

I still remember the white and yellow ribbons for the hostages. And even though its a different guy, I smiled when they announced Khamenei died.

You can't get the uranium or reopen the strait without ground troops. Declaring nothing more to bomb and running away with the straits closed and then the same time away from building a bomb is a clear loss.

Maybe someone wants to spend hundreds of billions on a new canal but it would still be in range of Iranian drones and missiles.

You are probably right. I can't imagine the UAE or the Saudi's spending billions on anything. And Iran blocking or shooting missiles at a canal through another country probably wouldn't cause any problems. When we pull out and the dust settles, have fun with your victory party over the Strait staying partially closed. Maybe Iran will install a toll booth now that they know they can control the entire world with that Strait.

[Burn1dwn]

my heart just breaks for that poor AH after the news that one of Iran's sophisticated and highly accurate missles landed in a house in the West Bank and accidentally killed 4 Palestenians and injured 6 others. Other than that, Iran's ability to protect the Palestenians is still pretty good.

That's still 3/4 less Palestinians killed in the WB by IDF and settlers since the war started.

I don't think anyone denies that the US and Israel have superior military equipment to the Iranians.

Just like in Libya and Syria, chaos only benefits one nation in the region.

It starts with an I and isn't Iran. See if you can figure it out.

Burn, if this endeavor ends with a pro western government that seeks to bring the Iranian people back to pre-Islamic revolution conditions and all the freedoms and benefits that entails, would you consider it a positive? I'm honestly asking what it would take for you to consider this a positive. Is that even possible?

Of course a Western friendly government would be a positive. That can be said for any of the countries that we have bad relationships with. I just don't think we should be wasting our troops lives, our money and/or repututation to change the leaders of any country.

We have plenty of proof that military action alone does not lead to better relations with the countries that we have tried this with. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan....all of them made no real difference after wasted blood and treasure.

Iraq-ended up reasserting some Western influence but also increased Iranian influence, numerous sectarian and Iranian militias in the country that can be future problems.
Syria-some better relations in certain regards but the President also had to invite a former terrorist to the White House to shower him with praise, who changed? Us or them?
Afghanistan-Taliban are stronger than ever.
Libya-a clusterfuck of violent never ending civil war and unstable country that has some ties to the US through some leaders and ties to Russia through others.

What proof do we have that this will end any differently even if the Iranian Government falls?

There is one country in the region that welcomes instability and chaos in it's neighbors. They are the only ones that seem likely to have a win no matter what happens.

[Burn1dwn]

They're maintaining the current level of fire for the long haul until Americas inevitably gives up or commits ground troops. Strait remains closed until then.

Why do you think America would ever commit ground troops?

For the same reason we got into this mess; Israel and Bibi will demand it

Israel can't spare any troops, they need them all ready to invade Lebanon and expand their borders again. Trump is getting played lke a fiddle by his good friend Bibi.

[BombaySapphire]

Gee, I didnt know the war had been won already

[QillerDaemon]

NATO is a mutual and collective defense alliance, an attack on one is an attack on all. It's supposed to provide cooperative security and peace with all members equally. Notably, Israel is not a member of NATO, only a partner country. NATO is -not- an organization to used to make an coordinated offense on any other nation, member or not, doing so is against its treaty terms. So any member nation of NATO is in no way obligated to become a part of our attack on Iran.

If Israel really wants to be in on the attack of Iran, let them, it's their war, it should not be ours. We already support Israel in a number of ways with our country's tax base, there should be no cause to put our military forces towards an attack on Iran. Let Israel fight this with the arms, bombs, and materials we provide them at our cost. It should be noted Israel provides a number of services to their citizens that's viewed as "socialism" here, such as a national healthcare plan and subsidized higher education. To a degree, we pay for things we won't give our own citizens, richest nation that we rumored to be.

I don't like the government of Iran, but I do respect the its people, who have no been well served by that government. But it is not our war to fight. I seem to remember that 47 said we should not engage in nation building, but that's what we'll be doing in attacking Iran. Or Cuba, for that matter. We've been repeatedly told we cannot afford to provide what should be essential services to our own people, why are we suddenly gung-ho to spend tax money on a badly coordinated attack on another nation. Is it really about the oil and its shipping?